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[angler andrew]

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Just thought Id let everyone know Im starting up a Tragopan breeding programme although I really ought to make a suitable house for em,not sure the parents would approve of em jumping on the dining table HEEE.

No letters to RSPCA please. I reckon theyve been dead since 1870 going off the legs of the case.

Any ideas as to the Bustard looking Guy anyone?

Andrew.

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[geraldsherbrook]

Dear ANDREW,

It's far too late now for my 'brother' to come to YOU to 'organise' the funeral !

The GOLDCHAMBER of Kelson junior is clearly to fill more and more !!!

pstttttt seriously Andrew a exeptional FIND !!! ......once more !

congratulations !...but again what a increddible 'gold treasure' YOU have in Your 'hands'

Make over the greetings to Your parents ...and NOOOOOOOOOO they don't need to take care of that 'WESTERN TRAGOPAN project !........they earn a nice pension and life ...that's ALL !

Geert

[phil j]

bloody hell matey were did you find this stuff i seem to spend ages on the net looking for something interesting and i find nowt

is the bustard bird thing a stone curlew i cant be sure as they are quite rare but as the pic was loading the head came up first and i immediatley thought of that

i will have to come and have a gander before you start hacking them to pieces

phil

[tankerfly]

nice mounts!

[mike townend]

Hello you jammy barstaff

The trag is a cracker, the feathers on the back of the bird are used in at least 3 flies. The bustard looks like it's had some sun or you are crap at pics. but will find out for you. It's either little or black.

Verry very nice Mike

[Dave Carne]

As Mike says - Jammy Bastard!

Well done - fabulous find - are you sure you didn't get instruction on material sourcing techniques from Edwin Rist

Dave

[angler andrew]

As Mike says - Jammy Bastard!

Well done - fabulous find - are you sure you didn't get instruction on material sourcing techniques from Edwin Rist

Dave

About the only thing ive got in Common with Mr Rist is a love of James Bond movies,though come to think of it Im not really fussed about those either HEEE.

Nope seriously for any newcomers on here who may not realise the Joke I dont condone any of his actions as its buggered it up for anyone now wanting to study these specimens Access Denied at all the natural history places.

I think theres more out there than we think?a few major collectors ready to sell or pop their clogs perhaps.

The Bird lover in me hates plucking the things though,needs must I guess.

Andrew.

[angler andrew]

Hello you jammy barstaff

The trag is a cracker, the feathers on the back of the bird are used in at least 3 flies. The bustard looks like it's had some sun or you are crap at pics. but will find out for you. It's either little or black.

Verry very nice Mike

Mike the Bird is Mint you should know by now that Im crap at Photography,taken under a flash this one.

Andrew.

[Ronn Lucas]

Oh my!!!!!!

[aaronostoj]

Holy crap, Andrew!

What's next, Blacker's stash?

You certainly have the right connections!

Aaron

[angler andrew]

Blackers Stash AO funny you should mention-------only Joking that would be a prize,did I ever post a pic of the Kelson Grub with Touracou in the tail?

I was always very hesitant at calling the few flies in the collection as kelsons but after reading his book ive no doubt they are his flies,ill post em up soon,the grub looks like it was made by the riverside,hardly an exercise in smooth floss body job.

Any ideas as to the Bustard anyone?its not the little Black one of that Im sure.

Andrew.

[Mike Norwood]

Dang, Andrew. You come up with the coolest stuff!
Look forward to pics of those Kelson flies.


Mike

[Dave Carne]

About the only thing ive got in Common with Mr Rist is a love of James Bond movies,though come to think of it Im not really fussed about those either HEEE.

Nope seriously for any newcomers on here who may not realise the Joke I dont condone any of his actions as its buggered it up for anyone now wanting to study these specimens Access Denied at all the natural history places.

I think theres more out there than we think?a few major collectors ready to sell or pop their clogs perhaps.

The Bird lover in me hates plucking the things though,needs must I guess.

Andrew.

I reckon you've broken through into the motherload in one of the old mines down your way - all power to you in keeping at it and tracking this stuff down.
Dx

[TJ Hall]

That Tragopans saying: " what the hell you lookin' at"!

[angler andrew]

Well they are the King of Birds after all,they do have atitude dont they?

Andrew.

PS anyone notice the empty Beer Glass I reckon he'd downed a few that night.

[mike townend]

hi ardew
can i see the tail of the bustard

[flyryan]

great find andrew the western looks nice but the satyr is quite faded i have a similar satyr to that one but i had christines one inmy hands at galway and i was sorely tempted

[ruhan]

Great stuff Andrew.

That other ones I think is the female of one of the three "korhaan" species we have in South Africa, but I am not sure.

[angler andrew]

great find andrew the western looks nice but the satyr is quite faded i have a similar satyr to that one but i had christines one inmy hands at galway and i was sorely tempted

Cmon Ryan youre slacking mate the Bird you thought to be a Satyr is actually the Western Tragopan Female and its a real belter of a specimen and larger than the male,Im seriously thinking a Pair of Traherne Argus flies would look amazing one as per normal with the black male feathers and one using the Female feathers which actually have very bold markings on em and huge spots in places.

Trouble is Im not cut out for plucking as Im a true Bird lover,I remember Ruhan once reading me the third degree saying"What are you a flytyer or a Bird collector which I thought was sound advice.

Ill post a pic of the whole case man youll all have a good laugh I just didnt equate the dimensions given and the pic which showed to be quite flimsy,HEEEE its ridiculous over two Meteres tall and nearly the same wide and it weighed 100 Kilos.

Andrew.

PS Id be interested if anyone can ID the other birds.

PPS in the process of Getting the nesacerry Cites paperwork for these birds,After reading a thing by Martin Bach who is familier with Western Trags he says they are so rare that any surviving mounts were made between 1860 and 1890 which certainly is in keeping with thw High Victoriana scroll legs of the cabinet base.

[angler andrew]

Great stuff Andrew.

That other ones I think is the female of one of the three "korhaan" species we have in South Africa, but I am not sure.

"Korhaan" you say Ruhan are these in the Bustard family?

Andrew.