Hand Made Salmon Hooks|
Ronn Lucas, Sr.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 01:03 AM
To have a nice smooth look to your floss body, it is important to have a smooth base underneath. And, because all flosses become opaque when wet, a base of white thread or silver tinsel is recommended to keep the black or bronze of the hook from showing through. This first picture shows a thread base on the front 1/3 of the hook.
I let the thread unwind to get all of the twist out so it will be flat when I wrap it onto the shank. Each wrap is edge-to-edge with no overlap.
Tie in the tinsel on the bottom of the shank and bind down the tag with 3 or 4 wraps. Body materials on salmon flies are almost always tied on the bottom. The top of the shank is reserved for tails, hackle and wings
Keeping tension on the tinsel, wrap over the top of the shank. Each wrap should over-lap slightly, then you should slide the tinsel off the previous wrap so that the edges meet. Wrap to the end point and return to the tie-in point. Unwrap the thread on the tag and tie down both ends of the tinsel. I do this to minimize the number of thread wraps and have a smoother body.
When working with floss it is very important to have clean hands. Before I start I use a pumice stone to remove any rough spots and burrs on my fingers. Then I wash my hands to remove all dirt and oils. Some tyers will wear silk gloves when putting floss on, but I don’t think it’s necessary if your hands are clean and smooth.
Cut off 6 0r 8 inches of one of the four strands of floss from the spool. Tie it in at the same spot where the tinsel is. Making sure that it is not twisted and is flat, begin wraping the floss edge-to-edge down the shank. Try not to overlap because it will leave a lump that cannot be dealt with later.
Once you have reached the end, return to tie-in point keeping the floss smooth and flat. Unwind the thread as you did wiith the tinsel and tie down.
Taking something smooth and curved (I use the barrel of a bobbin) gently but firmly rub the floss back and forth to smoothout any rough spots.
Now you can tie in the body material and ribbing and finish off the fly.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 01:08 AM
BTW i have been going back and forth between 4 strand, single strand and a few other flosses, do you find the 4 strand to lay smoother or is that just a personal preference that you are use to using?
Posted 16 September 2004 - 02:03 AM
I use the 4 strand floss because I got a really good deal on it. I bought 100 spools of various colors for $50, but I'm not "married" to it. I do use single strand silk floss for full dress atlantics and I like the Uni-stretch a lot. The Uni can be applied with a bobbin, but I put all my floss on manually, I feel I get better results this way.
The most important thing with floss is it must be flat. I looked around a craft store and found that the floss available there was a woven braid and not appropriate for fly bodies.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 02:05 AM
Posted 16 September 2004 - 02:09 AM
Hand over hand, I feel I have better control this way. I don't use a true rotary vise, it's an HMH.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 02:22 AM
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 03:25 AM
Only one strand at a time. In all cases you should avoid more than 2 layers of single strand floss. The more you use the harder it is to keep the body smooth.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 01:36 PM
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 05:59 PM
Did yoy get that tip from a local 'famous' tyer. I know that he uses that floss as well. Time to go snooping there Jeannette's floss boxes.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 06:01 PM
I have to wear gloves no matter what I'm using, doesn't matter if it's DMC Rayon, Danville 4 strand or single strand Silk- my hands fray it almost by reaching for it.
Will- Any winding I do is almost as an afterthought; like Paul, I tend to hand-wind over rotating the vise jaws.
When I do wind with the vise, I chuck up a bobbin and holder, then pass the floss between two fingertips while riding it over a polished mandrel held between my fingers. My Anvil is almost like the HMH.
Posted 16 September 2004 - 06:22 PM
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 11:50 PM
Steve. Sorry man but I can't picture You in silk gloves! That just ruined my whole image of you