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#1 bobfly

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:51 PM

Trying to track down a wing setter for one or two of our new tyers who need something as they have problems with their hands and need that little bit of help in that direction. There was some discussion several months ago about one that someone recommended. I`m not sure but I think Charlie Chute was mixed up in it somewhere. Anyone have any clues

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#2 keithciesla

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

Yes Bob I have made a "chute" wing setter I can send you pictures and I believe I have some photos of Charlie using one of his somewhere.  Paul P. also made a tool called wing it which works really well.  Let me know I can put together some pictures if you haven't found your answer yet.

 

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#3 bobfly

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:54 PM

Yes Bob I have made a "chute" wing setter I can send you pictures and I believe I have some photos of Charlie using one of his somewhere.  Paul P. also made a tool called wing it which works really well.  Let me know I can put together some pictures if you haven't found your answer yet.

 

Keith

Keith it would be great if you could out a pic up here.  In the meantime I`ll check Pauls out

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#4 Charlie Vestal

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

I just put a scan of the Ptalis Wing-It tool instruction sheet into email sent to your personal address.

 

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#5 bobfly

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:09 AM

thanks for that Chuck   Hows your health?



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:34 AM

I made one based on instructions John mc used to have on his website. It doesn't appear to be there anymore, but if you pm me with your email address I can send you a picture and some instructions
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#7 bobfly

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:26 AM

I made one based on instructions John mc used to have on his website. It doesn't appear to be there anymore, but if you pm me with your email address I can send you a picture and some instructions

Thanks Dave, Would appreciate it if you could post it on here. Save me a lot of toing and froing as its for the general membership not just those asked me about it

Thanks again



#8 StuartHardyBpc

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:17 AM

..yes ...be interesting to see it here :-)



#9 lukas

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:59 AM

Bob pm sent

 Basically biggest spool your bobbin will take fill inside bobbin with tungston putty as carp fishers use for there rigs and seal with epoxy

made one recently c&f bobbin 15g large sewing spool filled with tungsten putty then sealed with epoxy 70  g in total i feel to heavy

have a smaller spool to try

have a boobin c&f loaded with flat sciman lead 40g i like

c&f have brought out new bobbin not cheap will have to investigate more

links tungsten putty app£6 ebay

http://www.kryston.c...vy-metal-extra/

 

new bobbin and gravity system c&f note found a salmon one  on uk sites but dont know weights price app£35

c&f gravity system and bobbin trying to find supplier and weights out of curiosity

 

http://www.c-and-f.c...ol/cft_60l.html

 

now the ingenious and people with engineering skills will come up with things i thought but either couldnt afford or have the tools skills to do

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#10 keithciesla

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:42 PM

Sorry Bob got out of work late I will take pictures of both tonight when I get home and show you how they work, I will post the pictures here.

 

Keith



#11 Jim_Montgomery

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

Here ya'all go .... http://www.feathersm...articles/show/8

 

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

That's the one - thx
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:56 PM

Bob

I took Charlie Idea one fearther!

drop that sinker on a bobben add a little glue and paint

e-mail and I will send a pix


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#14 SC Fly Tyer

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

This will be very helpful for us novices. I have had tons of trouble with setting wings. I know what I'll be doing this evening ... making a wing setter. Thanks.

#15 Jim_Montgomery

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:27 PM

I have heard, mind you, that it only takes about five minutes to make one.


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#16 bobfly

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:35 AM

Bob

I took Charlie Idea one fearther!

drop that sinker on a bobben add a little glue and paint

e-mail and I will send a pix

How about putting that pic on here for all to see.   

Thanks



#17 keithciesla

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Hey Bob,

 

Sorry took a bit I did this quick so the wing is very sloppy but you will get the idea.  The wing it tool is from Paul Ptalis I was lucky to site with him at somerset and tie a bit with being taught about large wings.  Paul liked beefed up wings and color his tool sure made setting this big wings a great deal easier.  I tried to find pictures of Charlie Chute showing me how his wing setter worked but I cant locate them.  I believe charlie had 3 different sizes and his were made from brass, they had a good bit of weight to them and you could let it free hang it would hold the wing set in place with out thread.  I have attached pictures of a short step by step I tossed together quickly hoping it would give people an idea of what we are talking about.  Also I think I have the print out of Pauls instructions someone here but since the move things are still a mess.  

 

Take care

 

Keith

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:46 PM

http://www.ronnlucas...all/setter.html DDSE23`aw3d5d3df


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#19 bobfly

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

A big thanks to everybody. I`ll ask Bud to pin this as there is some great info in here

Thanks again



#20 SC Fly Tyer

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 08:34 PM

Does anybody know if the Ptalis Wing-It tool is available or being reproduced? Keith's post is very informative and I may start trying to reproduce it -- it would be great if we could get dimensions and/or fabrication instructions. I have also been playing around with a few variations of the wire Wing Setter using some old Griffin bobbin threaders and some scrap burl wood filled with lead. I've got a series of pictures that I'll post after I complete the project. They're not quite as heavy as I would like (somewhere between 2-4 ounces) and I am not sure how well they'll work. I've stocked some 'extra' parts and would be happy to make a few for those other novices, who like I have been struggling and frustrated in setting wings after I test this I first batch out.

A big thanks to everybody who has posted here -- this has been very helpful.

John