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Marbury Orvis Hooks - which were used?


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#1 antonml

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:15 AM

Hello,

Does anyone know what hooks were used in Marbury's book? I'm particulary interested in the hooks used to tie the Lake Flies.

Thanks

Anton



#2 keeper359

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:56 AM

Mike Martinek Rangeley Style hooks.
There is a limited stock if any are left at all.
Mustard 94720
Partridge heritage Streamer hook
You can find them at
Rangeley Fly Shop

#3 Ephemerella

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:54 PM

Also the Gaelic Supreme "Lee Schechter" hooks are replicas of the lake fly hooks. Unfortunately the hook maker (Vince Green?) passed away several years ago, so the stock of Gaelic Supreme hooks (e.g. Martinek Rangeley, Schechter, etc.) and Sprite salmon hooks (same maker, different distributor) is dwindling.

 

Also some older Mustad Hooks are a similar shape, such as the 3371 in a size 2 or 1 or 2/0.



#4 C F Orvis

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 01:43 AM

Just to clarify ... Are you asking about the actual hooks that Mary tied on the panels that were recreated by the artist for the "Favorite Flies" book, or the flies in Forgotten flies tied by Paul Rossman?
 
It appears looking at the original plates/boards that Mary or her tyers tied all the Bass, and Lake patterns on sproat hooks, and as Peter mentioned there are several mustad sproats that come close.  A popular hook manufacturer at the time was Allcocks, and there are several Allocks sproat bends that match.  In the display at the AMFF in Manchester Vermont, along with a dubbing needle and scissors are a box of Allcock hooks. 
 
The Lee Schechter hooks by Gaelic were created to represent the Kinsey hook, an American hook first manufactured by Samuel Phillippe  (one of the earliest split bamboo rod makers) named after the man that brought the bend to him Mr Kinsey.  The Kinsey bend is only mentioned one time in the Mary Marbury book and non of the panels tied for the book seem to have the Kinsey bend in them.  Maybe the artist illustrations appear to be Kinsey bends, but the actual boards which were used to create the book illustrations don't have Kinsey bends.  Also the LS hooks by Gaelic, both sizes are larger then any of the flies on the panel.
 
The Rangeley hooks I believe were originally Allcocks also, I'd have to go look that up but were designed for streamers rather then the Lake & Bass patterns that we call MOM flies.

 



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 03:05 AM

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