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#1 Bud Guidry

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Posted 24 March 2007 - 06:25 PM

i've noticed alot of questions and answer lately about the more exoctic materials and some interest in basic materials in general on the page. maybe we could post pics here of some unusual materials we might have or maybe a special JC cape or whatever. if enough guys and gals post pic we could possibly start a material library. once we have a few post we could pin the topic above for use by beginners and veterans alike for use as a visual tool or guide. an example would be a grade 1 jc compared to the lowest grade. a pic of both grades side by side and it could give anyone an idea what we talk about so often here. an array of ideas could be used and a multitude of materials could be filed in this thread. this subject of materials and what we talk of comes up often. beginners could be directed to this thread for a visual discription of the materials we use. if anyones intersted post your special material pics here. i'll get a few pics up tonight

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edit: a good idea could be if you post a pic add a discription of the material ( species and type of feathers, difficulty of use ect... ect...) or if they are unusual materials add a few words on how you used them before on a fly
good idea also Alex. we could use any suggestions by anyone. once we pin the topic we could delete all the replys without educational reference and leave the important stuff in the thread, sorta edit the whole thing as it's growing.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:03 AM

blue streaked lori
red feathers can be used for indian crow sub or building chatterer style bodies, the red feathers with blue steaks are quite impressive for artictis style fly's. this material or skin can be purchased according to quality for 30 to 75 dollars a skin, avalibility is sometimes rare

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:08 AM

fairy bluebird

a beautiful material often used as a chatterer sub. a fly by traherne calls for fairy bluebird wings assembled in full featherwing style. the feathers have an enamaled apperance quite like jungle cock eyes. this material can also be used in chatterer style bodies and is quite easy to work with. when avalible it is quite expensive

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:14 AM

pita sordida or the hooded pita

a beautiful bird with an array of usable materials. the blue is most often used as a chatterer sub or cheeksand sides or veilings of free style flies. there are beautiful orange reddish feathers at the rump that can be used as IC sub of chatter style bodies or cheeks. the head crest feathers have a beautiful brown velvety look to them that would make a great chatterer style body. this skin ranges from 60.00 to 80.00 a skin when avalible

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:19 AM

red breasted shrike

a smallish bird ( blackbird size) used as a sub for indian crow. the bird is quite heavily feathered and this material can be also used as cheeks or sides on fly. quite easy to manipulate and also makes great veilings prices range from 20.00 to 40.00 when avalible

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:23 AM

green broadbill

blackbird size bird with beautiful green feathers. the feathers have a touch of irredecence to them. feathers are easily managed for free style application. makes exceptional chatterer style bodies. prices range from 25.00 to 35.00 when avalible.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:29 AM

ametyst starling

one of my favorite materials to look at, i haven't used alot but will in the near future. this feathered beauty can be much more appreciated in hand. it's tough capturing the true colors and irredecence in these feathers. the feathers are quite managible and can be used for chatterer style bodies and cheeks or sides to freestyle flies. the material is quite rare and hard to come by. prices vary according to quality of specimen

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:35 AM

scarlet minivet

smallish bird with materials used for veilings and cheeks. can be used as a sub for indian crow. hard to come by and prices determined by quality of specimen. there are a few secondary wing feathers on this bird that can be used for full feather winged flies and they are quite sticking in apperance when used in this manner. the black secondary wing feathers with red orange spots are breathtaking in apperance
rare and hard to come by. prices are at times quite expensive for this small bird

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:38 AM

dumont mynah

the dumont mynah rump feathers are used as a toucan sub and are quite similar in structure to toucan. these feathers can also be used as sides or cheeks and this bird is not frequently found and prices range from 30 to 75.00 depending on quality


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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:42 AM

golden mynah

another great toucan sub or used for sides and cheeks or veilings. the dumont is easily obtainable and inexpensive. they are sometimes hard to find but make a great addition to any collection. prices range from 30.00 to 75.00 depending on quaility

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:47 AM

gulbrystet trogan
a stricking bird with beautiful yellow feathers with a great likeness to toucan, can be used as veiling , cheeks or sides and the material is easily manipulated into place, hard to come by and prices vary according to quality of specimen. the bird has some beatiful barred secondary wing feathers that can be used in small full feather winged flies.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:08 AM

cotinga cayana
a sub species in the cotinga family or better known as chatterer. used in many classic flies as cheeks. also can be used as veiling. the material is difficult to manage and one of the more rare and expensive materials a fly dresser would use

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:11 AM

amherst tail feathers
called for in many classic patterns and as a single strand used as horns on flies. easily obtained and inexpensive. althought easily obtained good quality amherst tail is hard to find. you can go thru many tail feathers before finding one that marries well with other materials so don't be fooled by this material being advertised at many fly tying supply shops. the quality of amherst tail used in fully dressed atlantic salmon flies is often hard to find as is quality red golden pheasant tail and amgold tails.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:16 AM

seal fur

called for as dubbing in many classic patterns. the materials is dyed in an array of colors and quite easy to manipulate into fly bodies. this material is easily aquired thru Mclains website and reasonably price for the average fly dresser

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:20 AM

scarlet macaw wing covet

used in two traherne classics, the shannon and evangeline, also used to tie many artistic flies. fairly easy to aquire and takes some practice to tie in correctly. a little high on the price range for a single matched pair of feathers but well worth it

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:23 AM

hybrid macaw wing covets

used in free style full feather winged fly's. experience to tie in correctly and again, pricey for a single matched pair but worth it

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:31 AM

Indian Crow

here the five subspecies of indian crow are listed
scutatas
masoni
orenocensis
granadensis
occidentalis

called for in many of the old classic patterns. used as cheeks, sides, tail and body veilings. difficult to come by and highly priced. most are quite rare and feathers found today are materials collected years ago. 10.00 for a single feather is quite common. the indian crow is listed as an endangered species. subs are made today that mimic the beautiful crow feather accurately and can be aquired thru mclains website

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:37 AM

Banksian and really good JC (doubt I'll ever get better)

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE(Bud Guidry @ Mar 25 2007, 03:16 AM) View Post

seal fur

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For those of you who are worried that little seals are being clubbed to obtain this, it actually is coming from the inside of old Russian army coats that have been warehoused for years.

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Posted 25 March 2007 - 09:32 AM

Asian Kingfisher

There are some small brilliantly light blue feathers on the back just before the tail. The iridescence of them does not show up well in the pictures. These feathers are a great substitute for blue chatterer. Although as John McLain points out on his web site Asian Kingfisher was the original feather used on classics but it was found that they turn grey when they get wet. After blue chatter was discovered they found that it retained its brilliant blue color when wet and therefore it became the desired feather for cheeks.

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