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#1 Henry Denson

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:43 AM

I recently purchased a pair of G.P. tails from FeathersMC. They seem to be good quality, though I expected nothing less, but I cannot work with them for them life of me. Is there some sort of trick to marrying them, or does it just take skill and persistance?

#2 Ronn Lucas

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:31 AM

WASH them in hot (to the touch) soapy water. It may take more than one washing. Really agitate them lots while you wash them. Those birds are "tail draggers" so the barbs get dusty. Even great tails can be buggers to use. I use Amgold tail. 


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:54 AM

As Ronn says. In addition, I hang then from the root down, so that the water drips to the tip, preening them as they dry, forcing them to dry in a desired shape. Then steam when dry.

I strip the inside of them, leaving only the long barbs on the rachis. I then cut them into matched sections of about 4 inches long, that fit in ziplock bags. Paired and preened into the ziplock, they flatten out, and I find them easier to use when I take them out again.

 

When I use some, I cut the bits I need, with the rachis attached. This really helps keeping the slips in line when tying them on.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:03 AM

Sure can't add anything to this except...clean...clean...clean!! Not the easiest feather to work with, but following the tips of Ronn and Robert sure will help!!


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 02:57 PM

If you can identify someone that raises the birds, one thing that will aid in getting clean, undamaged feathers is to remove them from the bird as soon as the blood is out of the quill.   When you remove the entire quill, they then grow back.  I learned from experience, however, that you should not do this often.  It makes the bird  insane.


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#6 Henry Denson

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:33 PM

Okay, sounds like the general consensus is to wash the feathers. I will try this as soon as I get the chance.

Mr. Goggans, unfortunately I do not know of anyone that raises them. I would like to raise one myself, but among other reasons, I have enough foxes, raccoons, and hawks around that it probably would not last long.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:45 PM

Okay, sounds like the general consensus is to wash the feathers. I will try this as soon as I get the chance.

Mr. Goggans, unfortunately I do not know of anyone that raises them. I would like to raise one myself, but among other reasons, I have enough foxes, raccoons, and hawks around that it probably would not last long.

The thing I forgot to say was from personal experience, don't raise them yourself.  What a pain.....I raised Golden, Amherst, Grey's peacock and Impeyan pheasants along with white turkeys.  Never again.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:37 AM

Okay, sounds like the general consensus is to wash the feathers. I will try this as soon as I get the chance.

Mr. Goggans, unfortunately I do not know of anyone that raises them. I would like to raise one myself, but among other reasons, I have enough foxes, raccoons, and hawks around that it probably would not last long.

Henry,

Wash the feathers in a mild detergent like Woolite or Dawn dish detergent. They work best...and remember to AIR DRY the feathers.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:45 PM

If the feathers are really dirty or greasy use Dawn. If they are not that bad use woolite. Dawn is a true soap and Woolite contains some lanolin which can restore dry feathers and the barbets that hold the fibers together making for better marrying characteristics.