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#1 Barkworth

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 11:21 AM

I tied up a 1/0 Black Prince last night. I changed the crow pair under the wing for 4 slips of yellow macaw, after an antique I have seen some time ago. There are 5 toppings above the macaw...

 

I tried to do the body veils in the 'cupped' fashion, but the Monal feathers really don't want to lay flat like Crow does. Thinking about it now, I should just have tied them upright, on top of the shank. Thinking about it more, I'm considering the possibility that the cupped style could have been a consequence of crow feathers wanting to lay flat, so that when you tie them in an incline on the side of the shank, you'll get them to sit back to back without all too much fiddling. When I was working on the fly, it never occurred to me to change tactics. Stuck in an idea, I suppose... I made the best of it. Pretty pleased with the front pair, and the fly overall...

 

One for the wallet. 6 months to the season, cheers for that :-)

 

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:25 PM

Sweet looking fly there Robert...like the hook too!!  Good luck in the upcoming fishing season.....


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#3 sky-pilot

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:43 PM

Never fished this. Huuuum maybe next season. Well done.
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Posted 07 December 2017 - 07:41 PM

I don't recall working with the black monal feathers, but in general, when you need feathers to lay flat that have a naturally curved rachis, the thing to try is to reshape the rachis with your thumbnail.  This sometimes yields barbs going in interesting directions.  For framed flies, this can often be rectified by soaking/laying out on a flat surface.   For fishin' flies, it likely doesn't much matter. 

 

Of course, the other thing to do is tie them in so the cupped shape is accommodated.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 08:56 PM

Nicely done!!


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#6 Barkworth

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:11 PM

Nicely done!!

Thanks :-)

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 10:51 PM

Looks really great for the water! Yellow and blacl are also characteristic colours for the river i fish.

 

It was also quite interesting to read your insights behind the tying ☺

 

AM



#8 Barkworth

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 11:01 PM

Looks really great for the water! Yellow and blacl are also characteristic colours for the river i fish.

 

It was also quite interesting to read your insights behind the tying ☺

 

AM

 

Thank you, my friend :-)

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#9 Flynewbrunswick

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:36 AM

Luc has a nice   home made tool for this application very simple but effective..  will see if he can post,



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:07 AM

This is the tool Chris mentionned. A simple modified tweezer with a soft rubber or silicone sleeve. Prevents pinching fibers. Works great on JC, GP tippet, etc. I believe I took the idea from someone here or somewhere. Not sure where... In this case I used a tube fly sleeve...Attached File  image.jpeg   139.04K   39 downloads

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:42 PM

very clever.

 

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#12 Barkworth

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

Very cool, Luc. Thanks!

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:43 PM

Not a pattern that fits my eye, Robert.  Doesn't matter who tied it.  What I do admire is your obvious skills, your experimental thinking and approach, and your use of crests with such fine/thin tips.  Should do a hula dance once wet

 

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#14 Barkworth

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:26 PM

I'll dance the hula any day, my friend. Thanks for your kind words.

I should add that I think I confused cupped with keeled. It was keeled that I was trying to do. Ah well, different word, same mess :D

Thanks all, for the good vibes and comments.

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 02:22 AM

Nice look Robert. I used mearns quail as a sub on mine. They were great to work with.

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 05:28 PM

Interesting pattern, Id like to see it swimming, seems like a really good bass pattern.  Thanks for sharing your thought process.