Just a note to let you all know that I have not given up on tying. The wife and I are in Sarajevo visiting our daughter. I had planned on bringing stuff to tie, but a good thing I did not. We have been spending a lot of time looking after our grandson, while our daughter has been on the road for work. Her husband recently took a position here and is in the process of selling their house in The Hague and will be joining us next week.. We have had a lot of fun with the five year old who converses partly in Dutch and partly in English and will soon be starting at a French school where he will learn French and Bosnian, so we will not have a clue as to what he is saying. I will be back home later this month and back at the tying bench.