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#1 James Daly

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:00 PM

Greetings all,
So, I've used this time that I've had off of work to delve into the Natural Colorant Products side of dye processing. Thanks to a very generous and knowledgeable mentor, I've had the opportunity to mess around with some different materials and try my hand at coloring feathers. I've typically stuck to Mohair, Wool and such for dubbing. This is a new venture and I think it was successful. I don't think it can get any more classic than Swan feathers dyed using the methods prescribed by the master William Blacker. For your critique and amusement. -Jamie

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE(James Daly @ Oct 3 2008, 11:00 PM) View Post

Greetings all,
So, I've used this time that I've had off of work to delve into the Natural Colorant Products side of dye processing. Thanks to a very generous and knowledgeable mentor, I've had the opportunity to mess around with some different materials and try my hand at coloring feathers. I've typically stuck to Mohair, Wool and such for dubbing. This is a new venture and I think it was successful. I don't think it can get any more classic than Swan feathers dyed using the methods prescribed by the master William Blacker. For your critique and amusement. -Jamie

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That looks great James!

Wanna trade for some goose shoulders? laugh.gif
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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:36 PM

Great looking feathers! Now your assignment is to use them in a Blacker pattern. I'd suggest one of the Ghost Flies. devil.gif

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:40 PM

Jamie,

Truly taking it to another level. Ultra-retro!! As I was driving back from the Post office on a snowy October afternoon pondering classics, tying and materials I was thinking about all you hand tiers. I still can't even fathom tying a classic in hand. With a vise, bobbin and both hands most of us barely manage a decent outcome. But the likes of yourself, Long and others turn out these amazing flies tied in hand. Now with the addition of traditionally died Swan and other materials your flies will assume a whole new air. An off the plates of PT, Kelson, Hardy, Tolfrey etc. I can't wait to see these tied in. Hand, vise, teeth whatever.

Where these from Mute swans? The Trumpeter's are still hanging out around here despite the snow and freezing temps at night.
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The colors are great. Any natural for a dark Claret out there? As a side note I'm listening to some excellent Doc Watson and thinking about the good ole' days.

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#5 G. Paul

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:21 AM

Jamie,

I have never held swan feathers. What are they like? Are they hard and firm like turkey or are they soft and pliable like goose? Were they used for the classics simply because of their size or was there another reason?

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#6 Ronn Lucas

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 03:47 AM

Looks cool Jamie!!!!!
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 05:42 AM

I think you should send them down here to have them tested in Southern atmospheric conditions rolleyes.gif They look like they could use it cool.gif
On the why they were used a lot, I think Kelson said something about a certain amount of transluscency somewhere in his writings for one thing.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 06:16 AM

Lovely colours JD - specially the madder pink - did you do the 'boil for about six months' thing?

IMO GOOD swan (almost impossible to get - JD's blue feather is good stuff) is the best winging material there is - dyes superbly, marries fantastically (better than any other material apart from bustard), isn't plasticky and stiff like turkey (and doesn't have stress bars) or floppy like goose - but if you wanna tie over 3/0 forget it.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 07:17 AM

BEAUTIFUL Jamie.............. shades.gif
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 07:26 AM

Looks great JD biggrin.gif
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 08:43 AM

Looking beautiful mr. D.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 10:58 AM

Hi jamie,
Lovely colours! I have a bunch of natural white Swan shoulder feathers.
Think I will send them to you for dying. whistling.gif
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#13 James Daly

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 12:03 PM

Thanks Everybody!!

DC- The Madder Scarlet or Pinkish was looking good until I got the bright idea to add Tin to the mixture. It was Madder and a touch of cochineal. I dried it off and looked at it, thought to myself I want a brighter red. Aha, add tin! VOILA, PINK! 4 hours boil and I get pink! LOL!! Thanks again! -Jamie
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 01:09 PM

Jamie - Too cool that you are dying "old world" technique and they look great!!! I was thinking of dying some golden yellow feathers recently using tumeric for a specific pattern (hen pheasant dyed yellow) - any advice on how?

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 04:21 PM

Lee ... .would that be for a purple emperor? Looking at that Kelson pattern last night.

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Posted 04 October 2008 - 04:53 PM

Jamie
I'm very impressed, keep up the good work.
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Posted 04 October 2008 - 07:37 PM

Lee,

Dyeing with turmeric is easy. I've got a write-up on the feathersmc web site that gives the recipe and conditions.

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 01:35 AM

You got it Royce biggrin.gif !!!

Thanks Charlie... I'll check John Mc's site for the article.

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